Peter
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Good article Sean, not much to disagree with!
Perhaps I could add a few random thoughts of my own in no particular order:
With the possible exception of Charles Kennedy, Mr Corbyn is the only person in recent decades who has been allowed anywhere near the leadership of a major party who is a recognisable human being. The others all give the impression of automata regurgitating a script that has been put together by a committee of propagandists.
A good idea of what this means in practice are these recent comments from Peter Hitchens:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/09/my-evening-with-jeremy-corbyn.html
I would also say that if Mr Corbyn does in fact win the leadership contest, he will be the only honest man at the head of any major UK political party. That’s not to say that I like his ideas; in many cases I don’t. It is merely to say that he says things as he sees them, which has become a very rare quality since at least the mid-1980s. That in itself must a be a siginificant point in his favour for many voters wo are fed up with hearing politicians who are asked a simple qestion and proceed to say what their psin docotr told them to say on the topic, whether or not it answers the original question. The sort pf phrases that introduce this sort of answer include: “what we’ve said”, “I think the real issue”, “I want to make it quite clear” and so on. By contrast, whenever I have listened to Mr Corbyn, he has endeavoured to answer questions in plain language in a way that he feels is right, no matter how they might play with some focus group or other.
With regard to his economic plans, which have been heavily criticised, I do not think that his ideas would prove to be anything like the turn-off for voters that some suggest. Again, that is not say that his ideas are sound, but rather to make the point that practically none of his critics in this area has a leg to stand on. For example, all parties support the idea of printing money; so how can politicians who have been quite happy to hand out free money to failed bankers then oppose handing out more free money as “People’s QE”? Of course Mr Corbyn is wrong, but but those who have conceded the initial principle can hardly carry much weight in opposing him.
It should also be noted that thanks to efforts by various governments to prevent any correction taking place in 2008-09, western governments including the UK’s now have signficantly more debt and there are huge stresses in the economy: just look at the results of asset price inflation in relation to incomes. All of this suggests that we might not be very far from another economic crash, in the aftermath of which someone like Mr Corbyn might do rather well. The fact that what will have been seen to fail is corporatism rather than free markets will be lost on most people.
Another criticism against Mr Corbyn is that he will put the defence of the UK at risk. Again the problem is that his critics are generally the very least qualified people to make this allegation: does any sensible person really think that the last 25 years of UK involvement in middle eastern affairs has been a success or has made the country safer? It has also been alleged that Mr Corbyn has been involved with groups like Sinn Fein and Hamas in inappropriate ways. But can any of this really be valid criticism from a politicians who themselves have been happy to see people like Martin McGuinness entertained at Windsor Castle? Or who have supported aid for people fighting in Syria who might have been called terrorists in other places and at other times?
As Sean rightly says, there is a strange consensus in UK politics whereby the current order is built on various lies and staffed by characterless people. To take this further, one might note that the system actually +requires+ characterless leadership and is based around neo-conservative foreign policy and corporatist-authoritarian domestic policies. The common feature of all these policies is their fragility in the face of serious debate; they could not exist in a system where principles rather than trivial details were allowed to be discussed, much as hot-house orchids could not survive outside the greenhouse.
A good example of this is the corporatist fiasco that is rail “privatisation”. This whole tottering, opaque and totally insane structure is infested with waste and perverse incentives throughout its whole fabric; it is fundamentally indefensible, and would surely collapse in the face of decent principled criticism. Yet it has survived for over 20 years now thanks to a political consenus whereby nothing important may be debated. Mr Corbyn’s straightforward commitment to end rail “privatisation” will have come as a breath of fresh air to many people.
None of these points should be taken as any kind of endorsement of Mr Corbyn. It is merely to say that those on the “right”, some of who have even become temporary supporters of Mr Corbyn to try and wreck the Labour Party as they would see it, might very easily come to regret their enthusiasm for his candidacy.
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A vision, 10 years hence. As we stare, dumbfounded, at the destruction, someone utters, “You can say what you like about Mr Corbyn, but he was honest and he made the trains run on time……”
Looked at from an objective point-of-view, the herd mentality of human animals is fascinating. I often wonder if, to an intelligent extra-terrestrial species, we might look like lemmings. We live in a hierarchical society in which most people seem genetically-primed to be followers and worshippers, putting their faith in a Sky God or some secular leader, in this case The Great Corbyn. Reams and reams of guff are being written to prop-up this latest front man for international capital.
We are informed that Mister Corbyn is a “normal human being”, or as the author puts it: “the only recognisable human being” among the leadership candidates. This just seems like guff to me. I’m not clear what it means, if it means anything, but we must recognise that Corbyn is himself a professional politician putting on an act. His answers are thought-through and prepared, and often given to sympathetic left-minded journalists, who are happy to give him an easy time of it. Corbyn is an image-conscious politician in the same vein as the rest.
We are informed that Mr. Corbyn “will be the only honest man at the head of any major UK political party”. I wonder how “honest” he will still be if he is actually put in a position to make the decisions he says he wants to make. I suspect he will then become another unpopular, demonised public figure who has “betrayed” his principles. This is the cyclical and self-defeating process of hope-frustration-hope-frustration that is characteristic of a system designed to manipulate masses of people.
In any case, “Honesty” is not necessarily a desirable attribute in a politician. Personally, I would prefer a politician who doesn’t say what he is thinking (I’d rather not know, thanks), and who believes in nothing. I know where I am with crooks and nihilists, and their moral authority (and thus potential to inflict any real harm) is weakened by their crookery and decadence. But an honest politician is dangerous. We had ten years of ‘honesty’ under Blair, and I don’t want an encore.
I am sorry; sometimes I get angry.
The fact that there are only two comments about this matter suggests that it doesn’t really matter at all who heads up the British Labour Party.
What we have instead to discuss, as I have often said, is what the **** this object, the “Labour Party”, an avowedly-socialist-party, in a modern country, is doing in a modern democratic polity. Why is it here? What is it for? Why is it,actually, allowed even to exist, since everything its philosophers said is wrong and bad and dangerous? I did say more but I deleted it, for it might have got me ejected from the LA, and that would never do!
As Brutus says….”I pause for a reply”.
I agree it doesn’t particularly matter in the scheme of things. Five years of Corbyn will not look too dissimilar to five years of Cameron – though it does depend from what perspective you look at it, politics being a relativistic business.
In point of fact, Labour is not a socialist party, never has been, and was never intended to be. It is a social democratic and labour party. [I know Clause IV of the revised constitution states that the Labour Party is a ‘democratic socialist’ party, but that means social democratic and labour, not socialist. In truth, Labour is no more socialist than the DDR was communist or socialist, which is not much].
Britain is not a “modern democratic polity”. Again, it’s not meant to be (and I’m personally not completely sure if I want it to be). This country is a polyarchy, with some superficially democratic features, that have been put in place to fool educated people into believing that Britain is a “modern democratic polity”, so that they can base their arguments on bogus assumptions.
Hitchens declares Cameron is a Trot –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTu3gVvm_K8
Corbyn ex-flunky says he’s a Trot –
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11677715/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-not-a-serious-politician.-I-should-know.html
Stick a fork in it, it’s done.
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